Friday, November 20, 2009

On the Extreme Improbability and Inefficiency of Using Diesel Gas for "Exterminations" at Treblinka

What a Treblinka gas chamber would have looked like, had one actually existed [1]

From the research I've done, diesel engines generally do not produce a lethal amount of carbon monoxide gas. The exhaust from gasoline engines, on the other hand, is quite lethal and contains much more carbon monoxide. Furthermore, the Germans used gasoline, not diesel, engines in all of their tanks and vehicles during the war. So assuming for the sake of argument that the Germans were actually conducting homicidal gassings, they surely would have used exhaust from gasoline engines. But hey, that's the way everything is with the holohoax story. The Germans, paragons of efficiency and engineering, always seem to have chosen the most inefficient (and downright impossible) methods for their "masterplan of genocide."

Yad Vashem's summary on Treblinka mentions the Diesel of Death:


Extermination Camp, in the northeastern part of the Generalgouvernement. Located 2.5 miles from the train station of Malkinia on the main line running from Warsaw to Bialystok. Treblinka was established in early summer 1942 as part of Aktion Reinhard - the Nazis' plan to exterminate the Jews in the Generalgouvernement area. In total, approximately 870,000 people were murdered at Treblinka.

The first transports reached Treblinka on July 23, 1942; including Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto. From that day until September 21, 1942, approximately 254,000 Jews from Warsaw and 112,000 Jews from other places in the Warsaw district were murdered at Treblinka. Hundreds of thousands of Jews from the Radom and Lublin districts of the Generalgouvernement were also executed there. In all, approximately 738,000 Jews from the Generalgouvernement perished at Treblinka, as well as 107,000 Jews from the Bialystok district. Thousands of Jews from outside Poland were also brought to Treblinka; these included Jews from Slovakia, Greece, Macedonia, Thrace, and some who had previously been interned at Theresienstadt. Altogether 29,000 Jews from outside Poland were murdered at Treblinka, as were 2,000 Gypsies. The mass extermination program was in operation at Treblinka until April 1943, after which only a handful of transports arrived.

From August 1942, Treblinka was run by camp commandant SS-Obersturmfuehrer Franz Stangl, who had previously served as commander of the Sobibor extermination camp. Stangl's deputy was Kurt Franz. They were assisted by 20-30 SS Officers (who had participated in the Euthanasia Program), and 90-120 Ukrainian soldiers working as camp guards.

Treblinka was situated in a sparsely populated area that was heavily wooded - this site was chosen in order to conceal the atrocities taking place there. Treblinka contained living, reception, and extermination areas. The extermination area included a brick building that housed three gas chambers. A diesel engine was housed in an adjoining shed - this engine produced the carbon monoxide, which fueled the chambers. The gas flowed through pipes attached to the ceiling of the chambers, ending in what looked like showerheads. The Nazis arranged the gas chamber in this way in order to create the impression that the Jews were merely entering the building to take showers - not to be murdered. A hallway in the building led to each of the three gas chambers, and in each chamber was another door through which the corpses were removed. About 200 yards away lay the huge trenches where the corpses were buried.

The extermination process at Treblinka was based on experience gained by the Nazis in Belzec and Sobibor- the two other Aktion Reinhard camps. When a train made up of 50 - 60 cars, holding some 6,000 - 7,000 people, arrived at the nearby train station, 20 cars were brought into the camp, while the rest were made to wait in the station. The car doors were opened, and SS officers ordered the Jews to disembark. Next, a camp officer would announce to the new arrivals that they had reached a transit camp where they would take showers, have their clothes disinfected, and then travel on to various labor camps. After this announcement, the Jews were taken to "Deportation Square." Men and women were separated - children going with the women. The women and children were made to undress in a barrack, and the women's hair was cut. Naked, they were forced to leave the barrack and enter the "pipe"- a narrow, fenced-in, camouflaged path that led to the gas chambers. After the victims were locked into the chambers, the engine was started and poison gas poured in. Within half an hour, all inside were dead, and the next group of victims would prepare to enter. Meanwhile, the bodies were removed and taken for burial in the trenches. This last job was done by a team of Jewish prisoners, called Sonderkommando.

These prisoners were not immediately executed upon arrival at the camp - rather, they were selected carry out tasks such as cleaning the train cars, preparing the victims for their execution, dealing with the possessions and clothing of the victims and handling the dead. In the spring of 1943, the Nazis used the Sonderkommando to cremate the bodies. Most of these Jews were exterminated themselves after a few days or weeks of work, with newer arrivals taking their places.

After a while, the Nazis decided that the extermination process at Treblinka was not efficient enough. Thus, between August and October 1942 10 new gas chambers were constructed there. Furthermore, the Germans added another improvement to their extermination system - those new arrivals who were too weak to walk to the gas chambers unaided were told that they were being sent to the infirmary. They were taken to a closed-in area with a Red Cross flag adorning it; inside were SS officers and Ukrainian guards who murdered them on the spot.

Aktion 1005 - the campaign to destroy all evidence of the Nazis' murderous activities - was launched at Treblinka in March 1943, and lasted until July. After this operation was completed, Treblinka was shut down. Most of the camp structures were destroyed, the ground was plowed and planted over, and the site was turned into a farm that was given to a Ukrainian family.

Hundreds of Jews tried to escape the trains on their way to the camp, but most failed in their attempts. Others attempted to escape the camp itself, but almost all were caught and hanged. Jews from several transports offered resistance in which German and Ukrainian guards were wounded or killed. An uprising was planned when the prisoners found out that the Germans were planning to liquidate the camp, however, the uprising was suppressed and most of the 750 prisoners who tried to escape were caught.

After the war, many of the SS officers who worked at Treblinka were put on trial. Both commandant Franz Stangl and deputy commandant Kurt Franz were sentenced to life imprisonment.

IHR on the improbability of using Diesel engine gas for "exterminations":

Diesel Gassing

In recent years, the most widely-circulated story has been that Jews were gassed at Treblinka with carbon monoxide from the exhaust of a diesel engine. (note 22)

However, as American engineer Friedrich Berg has established, this story is improbable for technical reasons. (note 23) In spite of the obnoxious odor of diesel exhaust, diesel engines produce much smaller quantities of toxic carbon monoxide than ordinary gasoline motors. (note 24) It would thus be difficult efficiently to gas large numbers of people using diesel exhaust. A normal gasoline engine would be much more logical. (note 25)

It is important to keep in mind that the "evidence" now usually cited for diesel gassing at Treblinka is no more credible than the evidence that was once presented for steaming and suffocating. Apparently the steaming and suffocating stories have been dropped for the sake of credible consistency.

Solid evidence for gassings at Treblinka has proven to be very elusive. For example, it turned out that none of the witnesses in the 1951 West German "Treblinka" court case ever actually saw anyone being gassed. "The type of gas used to kill the people there [Treblinka] cannot be determined with certainty because none of the witnesses was able to witness this procedure," the judges declared in their verdict. (note 26)

At least some former Treblinka prisoners testified in postwar West German trials that they not only never saw a gas chamber, but did not even hear about gassings from others. (note 27)

Holocaust historians today are not able to agree about the number of homicidal "gas chambers" at Treblinka. Raul Hilberg maintains that there were three at first, but because they were allegedly not adequate for the job, more were built later on. There were eventually six or perhaps ten chambers, he reports. (note 28) Others have reported the existence of 13 gas chambers at Treblinka. (note 29)


  1. We are now almost 70 years since Treblinka first hit the headlines, and we know more about the camp commandant's dog, than we do about how 900,000 people were supposedly gassed to death there.

    The reason is, of course, is that the dog was real, where as the deaths are all fake.

    Even today the holohoaxers are unable to present an agreed method of how the gas was generated and fed into the chambers.

    For instance;- Yad Vashem describes "a DIESEL engine that produced the carbon monoxide for the chambers. The gas was introduced by way of pipes ATTACHED TO THE CEILINGS of the gas chambers that ended in what looked like shower heads..."

    It goes on to claim that 10 more chambers were added in October 1942 with a larger capacity, but does not say if these were fed by diesel gas.

    However;- Wikipedia states that "The victims were gassed with the fumes generated by a Soviet tank engine...."According to SS Sergeant Erich Fuchs, it was a 200 horsepower water-cooled, V-8 GASOLINE engine, which was also used for generating electricity..."Its exhaust pipe was put JUST BELOW GROUND, and the tubing opened into all three gas chambers."

    Like Yad Vashem, Wikipedia claims that 8 to 10 large chambers were added later, but is very coy in describing the method used. It simply states; "two fume-producing engines instead of one". Sorry Wikipedia, but that simply won't do.

    Now, the camp commandant's dog wasnamed Barry, and if you type in KURT FRANZ DOG BARRY on google you will find a couple of websites describing the dog - along with several photos. Barry is a wonderful old St Bernard who wandered freely around the camp. Naturally the holohoaxers tried to claim that the commandant Kurt Franz trained Barry to attack and bite the buttocks and testicles of the inmates. But really, how could anyone train a gentle, good-hearted breed of dog such as this to attack anyone.

    The St Bernard is a dog which is well know for Alpine rescue - you tie a small barrel of brandy around its neck, and off it goes to find poor souls lost in the mountains. Plus the fact, that the shape of its snout and jaw preclude it from taking bites out of human flesh - bah!

  2. The crafty old holohoaxers have been at work on Wikipedia!

    They have altered the entry about SS Sergeant Erich Fuchs giving a description of a gasoline engine being installed at Treblinka for the alleged gassings.

    Of course - if we were to go about revising the holocaust narrative, then we would promptly be screamed at, as "anti-semitic haters" and "holocaust deniers". But apparently its quite OK for Wikipedia to change the story at the request of - well...who knows?

    At the present time, Wikipedia just claims that Erich Fuchs installed an engine at Treblinka for generating electricity at the camp, and makes no mention of the type of fuel it burned. Neither does it say whether this engine was actually used for the gassing of the alleged victims.

    Oddly, Wikipedia's entry for Sobibor does still claim that Erich Fuchs installed a gasoline - or benzene - engine there for generating carbon-monoxide to feed into the gas chambers. But, of course, they have to! - because Fuchs himself gave evidence to this effect, under oath, at the "Sobibor Trial" in Dusseldorf back in the early 1960's.

    But for Treblinka, it was already "established" at the Nuremburg Tribunals that diesel engines from captured Russian tanks, were being utilised for creating the extermination gas - and thus the holohoaxers have been stuck ever since with this absurd explanation for mass-murder. Adolf Eichmann, at his trial in Jerusalem in 1960, even claimed that it was a diesel engine from a Russian submarine that was deployed for the gassing operation!

    So was it a red submarine - or a yellow one? Come on everyone, start singing - all together now;- "We all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine...

  3. Oh my gawd! - the official holohoaxers are in difficulties again.

    If SS officer, Erich Fuchs, declared under oath that he installed a gasoline engine at Sobibor for gassing the inmates, then why is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum insisting that it was a diesel engine that was used for generating the carbon monoxide?

    If the official holocaust authorities can't get the historical and technical record correct, then why the hell should we believe a single word they say?

    So let us summarize what the two main official Holocaust Memorial websites claim about the method of gassing at Belzec. Sobibor and Treblinka.


    Belzec.....- ..... no gassing method is described ( it just says "poison gas" )
    Sobibor....- ...........................................ditto...................................................
    Treblinka..-...... a diesel engine ( but does not specify that it was exhaust gas)


    Belzec......-.......carbon monoxide generated by diesel engines

    But of course, that's what they are both claiming today; but you could wake up tomorrow and find they are saying something else entirely.

    And just look at the paltry amount of technical information they supply us with. Only Yad Vashem says a little bit more about Treblinka;- "A diesel engine was housed in an adjoining shed - this engine produced the carbon monoxide which fuelled the chambers. The gas flowed through pipes attached to the ceiling of the chambers, ending in what looked like shower-heads".

    And this is all we get from the two so-called leading prestigious holocaust memorial museums in the world. They have nothing more to say about the method whereby one and a half million people were allegedly "gassed" to death.

    Pathetic - isn't it?.

  4. Hey maybe you all can suck on a diesel engine and tell me if it has enough fume to kill you...

    1. Why don't you do that yourself - and then you can tell us afterwards whether you survived or not...

  5. Good old Barry - the trusty old St Bernard dog, who helped keep the jews in order at Treblinka while they were taking a shower and having their clothes disinfected before being sent on to labour camps elsewhere. I hope Barry took sizeable chunks out of the buttocks of some of these Talmudic Rabbis for his breakfast each morning as they arrived from the trains. And I wonder if he tore off their testicles as well, and dropped them into his bowl, in order to be devoured later for his dinner that evening.

    You will all be pleased to know that Barry survived the war and went into well deserved retirement under a new owner. Now, is that not a genuine heart-warming story with a happy ending, which will bring joy and good cheer to animal lovers everywhere?

  6. What is further amazing, is, let's just ASSume that the supposed engine was indeed a Soviet-built V2 diesel as used in their T-34, KV, and JS tanks. First, WHY, pray tell, would a functioning tank engine, which the Heer needed desperately for their "Beutepanzers" (captured tanks) at the front, be shipped several hundreds of kilometers to Poland at all? Not only would there be numerous gasoline or diesel engines likely available LOCALLY, but, under circumstances where petrol and/or diesel are precious, use engines requiring them at all, when the well-known "Holzwagen", using "producer gas" (carbon monoxide, which is quite flammable), is already in widespread use to keep civilian vehicles running?
    How difficult would it be to source one or more of these "Holzwagen" CO gas generators, which produce the needed killing agent from WOOD. The two things necessary to keep such a nefarious machine going were in ample supply at Treblinka: wood (nearby forests) and LABOR. Indeed, virtually all camps within walking distance of woods had a forestry detail! If the Germans indeed misused a perfectly functioning diesel tank engine, badly needed at the front, for the purpose of asphyxiating with diesel exhaust, which tends to produce very little if ANY CO at all (diesel engines, by their nature, operate at greater than 100% "Theoretical air", as the stochiometry in the combustion chamber is limited by the available fuel squirted in at the top of the compression stroke: i.e., *excess air" doesn't reduce power output, and works AGAINST CO the diesel tank engine story is bogus, or the Germans were very sloppy engineers.